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Guest. Does Ravon's bodywork rust? Is it galvanized? What is the paint quality of the body? The coating now has four protective layers

Galvanized body Daewoo Gentra 2

The table indicates whether the body of the Daewoo Gentra 2, produced from 2013 to 2016, is galvanized
and the quality of processing.
Treatment A type Method Body condition
2013 PartialHot dipped galvanized
(one-sided)

zinc layer 2 - 10 microns
Galvanizing result: Good
The car is already 6 years old. Given the age and quality of the zinc treatment of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 7 years.
2014 PartialHot dipped galvanized
(one-sided)
zinc melt deposition on steel
zinc layer 2 - 10 microns
Galvanizing result: Good
The car is already 5 years old. Given the age and quality of the zinc treatment of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 8 years.
2015 PartialHot dipped galvanized
(one-sided)
zinc melt deposition on steel
zinc layer 2 - 10 microns
Galvanizing result: Good
The car is already 4 years old. Given the age and quality of the zinc treatment of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 9 years.
2016 PartialHot dipped galvanized
(one-sided)
zinc melt deposition on steel
zinc layer 2 - 10 microns
Galvanizing result: Good
The car is already 3 years old. Given the age and quality of the zinc treatment of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 10 years.
If the galvanized body is damaged, corrosion destroys zinc and not steel.
Types of processing
Over the years, the process itself has changed. A younger car - will always be galvanized better! Galvanized types
The presence of zinc particles in the soil covering the body does not affect its protection and is used by the manufacturer for the word "galvanized" in advertising materials. ... Tests Test results of vehicles rolled off the assembly line with the same damage (cross) on the lower part of the front right door. The tests were carried out in the laboratory. Conditions in a hot salt spray chamber for 40 days correspond to 5 years of normal operation. Hot Dipped Galvanized Vehicle (layer thickness 12-15 microns)
Galvanized vehicle (layer thickness 5-10 microns)

Cold Galvanized Vehicle (layer thickness 10 microns)
Car with zinc metal
Vehicle without galvanization
It's important to know - Over the years, manufacturers have improved the technology of galvanizing their cars. A younger car will always be better galvanized! - Coating thickness from 2 to 10 microns (micrometers) provides excellent protection against the occurrence and spread of corrosive attacks. - The rate of destruction of the active zinc layer, in the place of damage to the body, is from 1 to 6 microns per year... Zinc is more actively destroyed at elevated temperatures. - If the manufacturer has the term "galvanized" not added "full" this means that only the elements subject to impacts have been processed. - Pay more attention to the presence of the manufacturer's warranty on the body, rather than loud phrases about galvanizing from advertising. Additionally

Rust on cars that were produced in Uzbekistan at the GM Uzbekistan plant - appears after several years of operation of the previous generation of cars, and other models. Potentially susceptible to metal corrosion due to powerful reagents on Russian roads.

Will new Ravon cars rust? After all, Nexia, Gentra, P2 and P4 are assembled at the same plant in Uzbekistan?

According to the press service of the manufacturer's plant, they reconstructed and replaced equipment at the plant, which made it possible to improve the technological processes of painting. Now modern technologies and processes are used that can significantly improve the quality of the paintwork of Ravon cars. Speaking specifically about the process, tunnels were introduced at the plant to protect against dust, the body parts are now thoroughly cleaned, and the most basic processes take place at a high level of automation.

Body paint composition for all Ravon models

According to the infographics, it consists of such components as:

  1. Varnish (40-50 microns)
  2. Enamel (10-15 microns)
  3. Electrostatic primer (30-40 microns)
  4. Soil cataphoresis (18-32 microns)
  5. Protective metal layer "Under coat GVH-170 UBC" (minimum 500 microns)

At the same time, the thickness of the layer of protective material of the bottom and lower sidewall of Ravon cars PVC Polyvinyl Chloride abrasion resistant coating sealer is at least 300 microns.

Galvanized body

On the official site ravon.ru, visitors often ask this question, to which they receive an answer with approximately the following content:

“The stamping of the body parts is made from a special steel sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. New technology. Not galvanized. Thank you for contacting us. "

Moreover, it is specified in the same place that the cars come with a warranty of three for the body, the manufacturer undertakes to carry out free repair work on body elements that have been damaged due to corrosion for 3 years, however, with the proviso that the car was operated in normal conditions, as well as regular checks and maintenance were carried out on time from the service book. If in the service book all the work is documented, but nevertheless, corrosion appeared, due to manufacturing defects, and began precisely under a layer of paintwork, which subsequently led to through damage.

The bottom line. As you can see, the manufacturer is aware of the problems of past generations of cars. And he took all the necessary steps to improve the anti-corrosion properties of body parts. Of course, looking ahead, it is difficult to say what will happen in 5-7 years of operation, but in our opinion, in the next 3-5 years we will not see these cars with rust on the body.

The Korean manufacturer Daewoo is famous for its budget and reliable cars. Most of them are "Matiz" and "Nexia". They make up the majority of the Russian market. But in 2013 the Nexia was replaced by a new car - Daewoo Gentra. The car is produced to this day. The manufacturer positions "Gentra" as the most affordable golf class sedan. But is it worth buying a Daewoo Gentra car? Reviews of real owners, photos, review and specifications, see below.

Appearance

The design of this sedan was completely copied from the first generation Lacetti. The automaker itself does not hide this. The appearance of the Gentra is identical to the Chevrolet: slanted headlights, a streamlined bumper and a smooth roof. The back also involved plagiarism. The trunk lid and lights are exactly like the "Lacetti" in the sedan body.

As noted by reviews, the exterior of the car is quite outdated by now. The design got lost somewhere in the 2000s. Therefore, there is no need to talk about modern lines and expressive forms. On the other hand, it is not worth criticizing a car that is sold at the price of a VAZ (by the way, we will consider prices and equipment at the end of the article).

Body and corrosion

The manufacturer notes that the thickness of the metal ranges from 0.75 to 1.8 millimeters. Moreover, the body is made of a sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. As noted by the reviews of the owners, "Daewoo Gentra" is really well protected from corrosion. Rust does not show through even on models of the first years of production. The body does not rot in the same way as on the original Korean "Nexia". But as for the gaps, here the Koreans missed. Many complaints from the owners are caused by the gaps between the fenders, headlights and doors.

Dimensions, clearance

The car, judging by its dimensions, belongs to the C-class. So, the body length is 4.5 meters, the width is 1.72, the height is 1.45 meters.

What really pleases is the high ground clearance. This is noted by the reviews of taxi drivers. "Daewoo Gentra" on standard 15-inch wheels has a clearance of 16 centimeters. Also, the car has very short bumpers, which allows you to climb curbs without any problems.

Salon

Inside, the car looks modest, but it is pleasant enough to sit. Confused except that the characteristic sound of doors closing. And this happens even on new cars, this is said in many reviews. Daewoo Gentra is produced in different trim levels, which can be distinguished by the presence or absence of wooden inserts on the panel and door cards. Quite a strange decision today - aluminum or chrome inserts would look much more profitable here. Still, wood is a remnant of 90s fashion. As for the quality of finishing materials, the plastic is not hard, which pleases. Noise isolation is also at the level. However, a couple of additional insulation sheets in the area of \u200b\u200bthe front arches "Gentre" would not hurt. The steering wheel is adjustable in two planes. True, this is not available in all vehicle trim levels.

Are there any problems with the salon in Daewoo Gentre? Reviews note the poor performance of the air conditioner. From the factory, little freon is charged into it, which already evaporates over time. In order for the air conditioner to cool normally, you have to go to the service yourself and refuel the refrigerant. By the way, poor quality O-rings were used on the Gentra dehumidifier. Through them, freon, along with oil, seeped out. This is a disease of all Daewoo Gentra sedans, according to reviews. Leakage of oil from the air conditioning system led to compressor breakdowns. Many have changed it under warranty. But the owners of old models will have to repair everything at their own expense.

Trunk

The trunk volume is 405 liters. The low loading height and the presence of a niche for a full-size spare wheel are good news. In addition, you can expand the volume by folding the rear seat backs. As a result, you can place up to 1226 liters of luggage.

Power section

As is the case with other models, the Daewoo Gentre does not have a wide variety of engines. So, the sedan is equipped with a single 107 horsepower gasoline engine. This is a 1.5-liter engine with a 16-valve timing system. This unit is equipped with a five-speed manual transmission or a six-speed automatic.

Performance characteristics

The one and a half liter engine does not upset in terms of dynamic characteristics, the reviews say. "Daewoo Gentra" accelerates to a hundred in about 11.5 seconds on the mechanics. With a gun - a second later. Of course, you should not expect significant power from such a motor. But in order to stay in the stream, these characteristics are enough. The maximum speed is 180 kilometers per hour.

But as for fuel consumption, here the numbers for the owners differ significantly. So, the most economical consumption is obtained on "Daewoo Gentre" with mechanics. Reviews say that on a highway without air conditioning, a car spends about 6.9 liters per hundred. But the machine gun is more voracious. On the highway, this figure is a liter more. In the city, consumption reaches 12 liters. And in winter, with warming up, even more - 14 per hundred. In view of this, many owners are converting the car to gas. This results in significant savings. The car spends about the same on gas.

Are there any problems?

If we talk about the box machine "Daewoo Gentry", the reviews do not contain any complaints. Once every 60 thousand in it you need to change the oil, and that's all. The box does not kick and shifts gears clearly. The mechanics here are completely eternal, the owners say. This design has been tested over the years and has been used since the days of the Lacetti.

But the engine ECU sometimes causes problems. This unit is located in a place where dirt, water and dust constantly get into. Therefore, the ECU often fails, and due to the banal oxidation of the contacts. As a result, the car can malfunction when idling or even stall in the middle of the road.

Another problem concerns the generator. On the Gentra, he is short-lived. The bearing often fails, which is why you can hear the characteristic trolleybus hum under the hood. Moreover, the owners experience this problem at different intervals. Someone after 5 thousand, someone after 70.

Prices, configuration

In Russia, this car is sold in several versions:

  • Comfort.
  • Optimum.
  • Elegant.

The basic one will be available at a price of 540 thousand rubles. The list of options includes:

  • Heated side mirrors.
  • Power steering.
  • Immobilizer.
  • Two frontal pillows.
  • Stamped wheels 15 inches.
  • Audio preparation for six speakers.
  • Fog lights.
  • Power windows and mirrors.

The luxury "Elegant" version is available at a price of 670 thousand rubles. It offers air conditioning, ABS, alarm, steering wheel adjustment in two positions, alloy wheels, acoustics for six speakers with a radio tape recorder, heated front seats and "premium" trim. Each car is covered by a guarantee for a period of five years or 150 thousand kilometers.

Summing up

So, we found out what the Daewoo Gentra sedan has reviews and characteristics. The main advantage of Gentra is its price. Indeed, for 540 thousand rubles, you essentially get a Chevrolet Lacetti with a proven gearbox, a reliable chassis and a very comfortable interior. In many ways, this car is superior to the Lada, so the Gentra will definitely not be left without demand. Should you buy such a car? This car will be the perfect choice for those who want to get a new hassle-free foreign car for a small amount of money. "Gentra" is a good car for everyday life, but you will definitely not be able to stand out on it. His looks are too old.

Gentra has a unique and outstanding history on the Russian market. Just think: the car remains on the market, changing its third brand already! Having started selling as a Chevrolet Lacetti, the sedan with minor alterations and a change of engine turned into Daewoo Gentra, and more recently the Daewoo brand itself has turned into Ravon. Hence the non-standard story with the statistics of "childhood diseases": specifically for "Ravon" it has not yet matured or matured, so it is easier to focus on the reviews of the owners of the "Gentra", which is still Daewoo. To trace the heredity of "sores" and understand which of them have already been cured, we were helped by the reviews of the owners and employees of service centers familiar with the car.

Air conditioner malfunction

Perhaps one of the most common problems with Gentra is an air conditioner that stops working or stops working quickly. The mileage at which the owners discovered this malfunction depended on the season: for example, those who bought a car in winter could drive all the cold months without suspecting that there was a problem. But for those who bought a car in the heat, the problem became obvious immediately.

"I bought a car in winter, it was impossible to check the operation of the air conditioner without special devices, because it is cold outside, in summer, when the heat came, I turned on the air conditioner, and warm air blew from there. I went to a car dealership, repairs under warranty, they pushed me there. hours, then they gave the car back, they said they had forgotten to fill in the freon at the factory. warranty, I was denied, supposedly the warranty is only a year or 20,000 mileage ... ", - tells his story the owner of Daewoo (Ravon) Gentra under the nickname roman.andronov on the website auto.ru.

The air conditioner stopped working because it ran out of freon, thanks to which the air conditioner performs its duties. As the owners complained, the manufacturer was initially "greedy" with the amount of freon charged into the air conditioner, and the one that was in the system gradually "ran away" along with the compressor oil due to poor-quality O-rings on the dryer - in cold weather the seals were deformed and the tightness of the system violated. The manufacturer changed these very rings actively and en masse, along the way, in a normal way, refueling the air conditioner. However, the problem often recurred: the quality of the rings did not improve, and over time they again began to "bleed" the freon and oil. Moreover, the departure of the lubricant from the air conditioning system sometimes led to compressor breakdown.

As the mechanics say, after 2015, the statistics on leaks have straightened: the quality of the O-rings has become higher, and the air conditioner is working properly, never "letting go" the oil with freon. However, some owners may argue with this statement: often after cold weather, the problem of current air conditioners returns, and by this time the warranty, as a rule, is already over. In this case, many change the factory O-rings to thicker counterparts. Well, within the framework of the guarantee, problems with the air conditioner are still eliminated without problems free of charge for the client.

Failure of the ECU

"Gentra - holey brains" - could be heard in the address of the car. Such an important detail as the electronic control unit turned out to be perhaps the weakest point in the engine compartment. It turned out to be open to all winds, waters, mud, - in a word, everything that somehow got under the hood while driving. At the same time, the "filling" of the block was not protected by anything, so it could easily break down, "sour" from moisture. The manufacturer, admittedly, noticed the problem in time, but sad variants of the development of this story happened. “Yes, indeed, having stalled in the middle of the road, I realized that I had made a huge mistake. I forgot to take a picture of the burned-out brains of my Gentra. The car was towed to the dealer with the help of my friends, and within 3 weeks the car was being repaired. ECU block, on which the contacts were rotted away, they showed me on the first day of the repair ... ", - wrote, for example, the user shatana on the gentraclub.ru forum.

Official dealers, however, reassure: Gentra really had such a problem with electronics, but it was encountered only on the first batches of cars - those that were still Daewoo. The owners were invited to the service centers to check the ECU condition and, if necessary, to seal the control unit connector. Appropriate measures were taken in production, assembly control was strengthened. So on new cars (which are already Ravon) such problems should not arise.

Quite interesting in this story is the fact that many owners, just in case, undertook to protect the engine control unit on their own - a huge number of options for different protective screens and boxes made from improvised means (pieces of cans, plastic boxes, etc.) were offered. Some were not lazy even to cook metal protection (!), After which the "brains" of the car were not so much moisture as bullets were not afraid.

Water under the rear seat

And this problem appeared with "Gentra" in its very first incarnation - in those distant times, when it was still a sedan Chevrolet Lacetti. On some lots of cars, after washing or driving in heavy rain, the foam rubber of the back sofa suddenly began to damp - occasionally arising, this strange and unpleasant feature was "inherited" by the Gentra model along with the body.

"So this problem touched me too. A little moisture and damp foam rubber of the sofa.
In principle, there was no surprise, I was ready ... ", a gpit user writes on the drive2.ru social network.

Official dealers quickly found out about the problem and began to take action. As it turned out, the leak was caused by a leaking seam on the cups of the rear supports. Moreover, experts reassure: the power structure of the body is in perfect order, and in general we are talking about a hole literally a few millimeters in diameter. So, in any case, there is nothing to worry about: the rear suspension on a good pit will not go into the cabin or into the trunk.

As for the solution to the problem, it is simple: the officials coated the seams with sealant for free - periodically, however, "flooding" the interior in search of a leak. In addition, this problem is not typical for all copies of the Gentra without exception, but for individual parties. Now the quality control in production has been increased, and the manufacturer has dealt with the current support cups.

Doors close poorly

Gentra owners have a lot of complaints about the build quality of the body and interior, and they are so diverse that making a systematized list is not so easy: someone does not like poorly exposed clearances, sagging / protruding / sinking bumpers, someone has poorly adjusted headlights or the bumpers are badly painted over, someone complains about creaks and cracks in various corners of the cabin - in a word, each owner has a couple of complaints about this. One of the claims that many agree on is doors that stubbornly refuse to close with a "civilized" effort. “Clap boldly - you won’t break it,” the owners joke.

"I recently became the owner of this car. And the first so far the most unpleasant thing that I had to face, three out of four doors close very badly. A detailed inspection convinced that the door locks were not adjusted as expected," wrote the user segun73 on the gentra-club forum .com.

Many owners really blame the dealers for the hasty pre-sale - at least after adjusting the doors, the situation corrected for many, and the doors began to close noticeably better. However, as the dealers themselves say, sometimes you should not rush to conclusions - you need to give the car a little "acclimatization". On the Gentra, seals made of rather hard rubber are used, which takes time to work in: it may not allow the doors to close normally for the first time, and over time it becomes softer, and the situation returns to normal.

As for the body as a whole, then, as officials say, stamping of body parts is made of steel sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. The thickness of the metal varies from 0.7 to 1.75 mm (power elements are thicker, non-power ones are thinner), which fully complies with GOST. So the gaps are gaps, and Gentra got rid of the rapidly decaying bodies for which Daewoo Nexia once became famous.

Alternator bearing wear

"It seems to me that the generator is dead. The battery is discharging. Before that, the bearings were changed 3 times under warranty. And the car is only 1 year old. All repairs on the generator were noted in the service book. I will demand replacement with a new one ...", - writes the user under the nickname Herzen on the gentra-club.ru forum.

This problem, again, is rather actual for Daewoo Gentra - statistics on Ravons is just beginning to form as the mileage of purchased cars grows, but Daewoo owners are well acquainted with quickly "tired" generator bearings. The mileage on which this happens varies greatly: there were cases when an unpleasant trolleybus hum began to be heard from under the hood already at the fifth thousand kilometers, and someone drove without problems for more than one year.

Owners' complaints about failing bearings (already replaced under warranty, sometimes more than once) continue to appear periodically on the forums. Those who have already expired their warranty prefer to look for analog versions - for example, they use components from AvtoVAZ quite successfully.

Of course, the owners of competing classmates can gloat and be completely confident that they have definitely made the right choice and bought the most reliable and problem-free car. But there are no ideal cars - and the fact that your favorite model has not yet appeared in this section means only one thing: we just have not gotten to it yet.

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